freedom pdf readers

[Linux Lingam]

dear all,

hopefully, someone will soon realize the huge gaps to cover for a full
drop-in replacement.
http://pdfreaders.org/

regards
niyam

[Anupam Jain]

Post by Linux Lingam
dear all,
hopefully, someone will soon realize the huge gaps to cover for a full
drop-in replacement.
http://pdfreaders.org/

DjVu (http://djvu.sourceforge.net/), both the format and the viewer,
are under GNU GPL. And from what I've seen so far, it has a VERY high
quality to size ratio.. Seems like the open source community would be
better off investigating alternative formats like these rather than
playing catchup with Adobe.

-- Anupam

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[rakesh kumar]

Hey its a great news that format & viewer both are under GNU GPL.

Post by Anupam Jain

Post by Linux Lingam
dear all,
hopefully, someone will soon realize the huge gaps to cover for a full
drop-in replacement.
http://pdfreaders.org/

DjVu (http://djvu.sourceforge.net/), both the format and the viewer,
are under GNU GPL. And from what I've seen so far, it has a VERY high
quality to size ratio.. Seems like the open source community would be
better off investigating alternative formats like these rather than
playing catchup with Adobe.
-- Anupam
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[Mayank]

Post by rakesh kumar
Hey its a great news that format & viewer both are under GNU GPL.

Post by Anupam Jain
DjVu (http://djvu.sourceforge.net/), both the format and the viewer,
are under GNU GPL.

Hi,
Can someone please explain it to me as to what is difference between a
document format being an Open Standard vs. a document format licensed under
GPL ?

Regards,
Mayank

[Raj Mathur]

Post by Mayank
Can someone please explain it to me as to what is difference
between a document format being an Open Standard vs. a document
format licensed under GPL ?

An open standard is one whose complete specification has been published.
It helps (but is not essential) if the standard has been ratified by a
standardisation body (e.g. BIS or ISO), in which case it's a de jure
standard. If it hasn't been ratified but has still been published with
some sort of warranty that it won't change without notice, it's still
an open de facto standard.

GPL is for licensing software, not standards. You could hypothetically
license an implementation of a format under the GPL, in which case the
format becomes a de facto standard (since, in the worst case, anyone
can derive the standard from the source code), but that would be a
rather round-about way of achieving an open standard :) Publishing a
format spec would be better off as a text document rather than as a
code implementation; OTOH you could always publish the text of the
standard and simultaneously publish code as a reference implementation.

Confused yet? No!!???! I am!

Regards,

-- Raju

[Smruti]

Post by Anupam Jain
DjVu (http://djvu.sourceforge.net/), both the format and the viewer,
are under GNU GPL. And from what I've seen so far, it has a VERY high
quality to size ratio.. Seems like the open source community would be
better off investigating alternative formats like these rather than
playing catchup with Adobe.
-- Anupam

That's great Anupam...

But PDF is a widely used format for document publishing. If we bring another
format into the public domain we will also be requiring a huge awareness
campaign for this.

I understand playing catch up might be hard..but at the same time giving too
many options to the end-user and finally ending up with a dozzen of
different formats won't also do any good. Let's not forget, all that an
end-user wants is her/his document to be published in a readable format. So,
let's not confuse them any further then they already are...

Just an opinion...

[Mani A]

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Post by Smruti
But PDF is a widely used format for document publishing. If we bring another
format into the public domain we will also be requiring a huge awareness
campaign for this.
I understand playing catch up might be hard..but at the same time giving too

The pdf format specs is huge. Even Adobe does not care to implement
all of it in its applications.
It is basically a question of selecting an appropriate subset (for
implementation)... not playing catch.

Post by Smruti
many options to the end-user and finally ending up with a dozzen of
different formats won't also do any good.

That should not be a problem, provided they are free and open.
DJVU is a very advanced format with over twenty years of evolution.
See http://djvu.org/resources/ ... it has plenty of advantages over pdf.

Post by Smruti
Let's not forget, all that an
end-user wants is her/his document to be published in a readable format. So,
let's not confuse them any further then they already are...

That is not meaningful in any sense. Is your 'end-user' an idiot?


Best

A. Mani
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A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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Post by Mani A
That should not be a problem, provided they are free and open.
DJVU is a very advanced format with over twenty years of evolution.
See http://djvu.org/resources/ ... it has plenty of advantages over pdf.

Well, if that is the case and DjVu is already a well established, well known
format very much active in the public usage for a long time then, pardon me
for my ignorance.

It should work like a charm.

Post by Mani A
That is not meaningful in any sense. Is your 'end-user' an idiot?

:) You call them stupid or you call them idiots but ultimately THEY ARE THE
USERS.